STLE Toronto On-line Meeting Notice: An Argument for a More Predictive Thermal Stability Standard for Turbine Oils - By Mr. Greg Livingstone - Fluitec Chief Innovation Officer

Reducing Tribological Losses and Failures – Part 39

STLE TORONTO SECTION – On-line

Speaker: Mr. Greg Livingstone

Subject: An Argument for a More Predictive Thermal Stability Standard for Turbine Oils

Date: Mar 24th 2026

Time: 12:00 to 1:00 PM EST

Abstract:

Thermal degradation and varnish formation remain persistent reliability challenges in modern rotating equipment. While turbine oils commonly meet original equipment manufacturer (OEM) approval requirements, field experience continues to demonstrate significant differences in deposit formation, oxidation stability, and service life among approved products. A key reason is that the industry’s legacy qualification tests—such as the Turbine Oil Stability Test (TOST) and Rotating Pressure Vessel Oxidation Test (RPVOT)—were developed decades ago and do not adequately replicate the thermal stress conditions or degradation pathways encountered in modern turbine systems.

This work explores the need for a more predictive performance standard and presents results from the Turbine Oil Performance Prediction (TOPP) test, a laboratory method designed to simulate long-term thermal stress under controlled conditions. In the TOPP protocol, turbine oils are maintained at 120 °C for up to 12 weeks while undergoing periodic ASTM condition monitoring tests. The objective is to evaluate degradation trends and deposit formation potential under sustained thermal stress representative of real operating environments.

Testing of commercially available turbine oils that all meet current OEM approval requirements reveals significant differences in oxidative stability, varnish precursor formation, and overall degradation behavior. In several cases, oils with comparable traditional qualification results demonstrate markedly different performance in the TOPP test. These findings highlight the limitations of existing stability tests in predicting deposit-related failure mechanisms and point out the need for updated testing standards.

 

 Another value of the TOPP test is evaluating treatment options for in-service fluids. The performance of various liquid technologies, such as Decon, added to in-service oils, can be effectively measured. Ultimately, an effective choice requires the appropriate test data.

Biography:

Mr.Greg Livingstone - Fluitec Chief Innovation Officer

Bio:

Greg Livingstone is Chief Innovation Officer for Fluitec. He is a renowned Subject Matter Expert on rotating equipment lubrication with three decades of experience, focused on how lubricants degrade and how to mitigate failure risks. He’s developed oil analysis tests, as well as filtration and treatment technologies used to increase the life and performance of industrial lubricants. He has volunteered in multiple industry organizations, such as STLE, ICML, and ASTM. Greg has published over 100 technical papers and he has co-authored a book called “Turbomachinery Cholesterol: The Story of Varnish”.

STLE Toronto On-line Meeting: An Argument for a More Predictive Thermal Stability Standard for Turbine Oils

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